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berockly (TTG) 2/26/2023 4:51 AM
My POV is still located in the same place
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Its just someone different using the body
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You hear someone too? Am I the only one who doesn't hear anything
Daen [LeviticusKillgore] 2/26/2023 4:52 AM
Yes I can hear him, he has a different voice, but he feels like my own thoughts.
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berockly (TTG) 2/26/2023 4:52 AM
So it feels the same but with different behaviors
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(It works like that because relatively low separation)
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Seth || M&M BOT 2/26/2023 4:53 AM
For the record, tulpas and hosts often (but not always) agree with each other, and have similar views on account of sharing a brain
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So thoughts sounding somewhat similar is to be expected.
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berockly (TTG) 2/26/2023 4:53 AM
ANyweys
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Seth || M&M BOT 2/26/2023 4:53 AM
Also heya, we're back for now, I'll be popping on and off every now and again.
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berockly (TTG) 2/26/2023 4:53 AM
We are gonna go to sleep
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Reisen
Tewi: You'll get different answers trying to explain this from different people, but our system is fairly confident that the tulpas and host of a brain exist in the brain's consciousness - not that the consciousness exists within them. So to us, switching is trading off who is "plugged in" to the brain's consciousness. Like switching who's in the driver's seat of a car. (edited)
Tewi: So my host doesn't take the body's "consciousness" with him out of the front - the brain's consciousness stays as it is, but my host moves to the state us tulpas are normally in, and one of us to the state he's in. Understanding this generally requires the mental model that "You" are not every single thing in your body and brain, just the identity and all that entails that's plugged into it, more or less. By default there's only one of those in a human, so of course we go our whole lives associating literally all brain activity with our sense of selves, but really, your sense of self is just a small part of your brain. (edited)
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Atlas || M&M BOT 2/26/2023 4:53 AM
Night.
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berockly (TTG) 2/26/2023 4:54 AM
Who should i hang out with tn?
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Seth || M&M BOT 2/26/2023 4:54 AM
Night.
@Atlas || M&M (@leviine) - jump That was me, oops.
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Reisen
Tewi: So my host doesn't take the body's "consciousness" with him out of the front - the brain's consciousness stays as it is, but my host moves to the state us tulpas are normally in, and one of us to the state he's in. Understanding this generally requires the mental model that "You" are not every single thing in your body and brain, just the identity and all that entails that's plugged into it, more or less. By default there's only one of those in a human, so of course we go our whole lives associating literally all brain activity with our sense of selves, but really, your sense of self is just a small part of your brain. (edited)
berockly (TTG) 2/26/2023 4:54 AM
i am my POV to me
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'Wesley' is just a personality i associate as being me
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Thats where i am at rn
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berockly (TTG)
We are gonna go to sleep
We... are VENOM.
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Seth || M&M BOT 2/26/2023 4:55 AM
it honestly kind of feels like that (I kid, partially)
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Tewi: It's often very hard to achieve switching for people who identify their sense of self with all the rest of the brain and mind. Not impossible, but I don't know how we ever would've learned to do it. Oh, right. By confabulating that our host was definitely having a separate life in our imaginary world that we just aren't aware of, until he switches back and makes up recalls those memories. (edited)
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berockly (TTG) 2/26/2023 4:56 AM
S when i switch
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I am still in control, just as lynn
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With "wesley" not being in control
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When tulpas are first created, why not give them cooler names?
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Some do!
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berockly (TTG) 2/26/2023 4:57 AM
Anyways my brain hurts
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Im half awaej
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Seth || M&M BOT 2/26/2023 4:57 AM
I mean, tulpas often rename themselves. headmates in general for that matter.
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Tewi: (There's somewhat of a history of the old 2012 members often believing a host could live an entire second life, consciously and in full detail, in the "wonderland" (our term for a consistent place you visualize to interact with your tulpas in, nothing special), while the tulpa still lived the body's life totally oblivious to that. It's a really toxic thing they preached, it still screws with people's expectations to this day, unfortunately) (edited)
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Seth || M&M
I mean, tulpas often rename themselves. headmates in general for that matter.
Hm I see
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I just happened to be named based off of the NPC I was based off of.
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Seth || M&M BOT 2/26/2023 4:57 AM
Ben gave himself a different name because his deadname was associated with a lot of negative memories.
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Reisen
Tewi: It's often very hard to achieve switching for people who identify their sense of self with all the rest of the brain and mind. Not impossible, but I don't know how we ever would've learned to do it. Oh, right. By confabulating that our host was definitely having a separate life in our imaginary world that we just aren't aware of, until he switches back and makes up recalls those memories. (edited)
berockly (TTG) 2/26/2023 4:58 AM
This definitely feels the same as how reality shifting works
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Seth || M&M BOT 2/26/2023 4:58 AM
He also just prefers it.
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berockly (TTG) 2/26/2023 4:58 AM
They make soma kind of "Mirror" self that they leave behind
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And come back with memories of being shifted or wtv
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(Idk if thats how it works)
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Daen [LeviticusKillgore] 2/26/2023 4:58 AM
Names
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What are your tulpas named?
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I have only two
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berockly (TTG) 2/26/2023 4:59 AM
Me?
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Daen [LeviticusKillgore] 2/26/2023 4:59 AM
Any of you.
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berockly (TTG) 2/26/2023 4:59 AM
Lynn, Cassidy, Kylah, Libby, Mary, Nelly
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Daen [LeviticusKillgore] 2/26/2023 4:59 AM
Cornelius. And Alastor.
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Seth || M&M BOT 2/26/2023 4:59 AM
I named myself on a whim because Mason asked me the moment I split in.
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Well, you can see my name! My host doesn't talk here a lot, but hello!
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If I had tulpas I'd name them Baphomet, Baal, Moloch, Elohim, Yahweh, Chemosh, Bol, etc. Is that weird?
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Seth || M&M BOT 2/26/2023 5:00 AM
I never changed it, although I did give myself a more thought-out middle and last name.
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If I had tulpas I'd name them Baphomet, Baal, Moloch, Elohim, Yahweh, Chemosh, Bol, etc. Is that weird?
@. - jump I don't think so. They're religious names, but a name's a name.
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If I had tulpas I'd name them Baphomet, Baal, Moloch, Elohim, Yahweh, Chemosh, Bol, etc. Is that weird?
Daen [LeviticusKillgore] 2/26/2023 5:00 AM
Well to each their own. But don't you think they should get to name themselves?
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I also see a pattern.
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Daen [LeviticusKillgore]
Well to each their own. But don't you think they should get to name themselves?
Yeah, sure. There's a lot of other deities in the pantheon for them to name themselves
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Daen [LeviticusKillgore] 2/26/2023 5:01 AM
Seems like everyone's Tulpas name follow a certain type
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Seth || M&M BOT 2/26/2023 5:01 AM
Mhm, at the end of the day, a tulpa should be allowed to name themselves, but I don't see anything wrong with using a placeholder.
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Seth || M&M
If I had tulpas I'd name them Baphomet, Baal, Moloch, Elohim, Yahweh, Chemosh, Bol, etc. Is that weird?
@. - jump I don't think so. They're religious names, but a name's a name.
Hm. What if they were the actual deities?
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In my imagination
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Daen [LeviticusKillgore] 2/26/2023 5:01 AM
I mean
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Seth || M&M BOT 2/26/2023 5:01 AM
Hm. What if they were the actual deities?
@. - jump You could imagine them as the deities. If you mean in a literal sense, that would be more akin to deity-work and religion than tulpamancy.
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People have tulpas based off of other characters and forms of media. It's not that unheard of!
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Daen [LeviticusKillgore] 2/26/2023 5:02 AM
Lolcery's Tulpas are all. Women? And they are all short names for ladies. Alot of À, L and Y
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Seth || M&M
Hm. What if they were the actual deities?
@. - jump You could imagine them as the deities. If you mean in a literal sense, that would be more akin to deity-work and religion than tulpamancy.
I see
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Daen [LeviticusKillgore] 2/26/2023 5:02 AM
And mine are all men. With some powerful names
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Kissa
People have tulpas based off of other characters and forms of media. It's not that unheard of!
Like you?
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Daen [LeviticusKillgore]
And mine are all men. With some powerful names
Please share them
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Seth || M&M BOT 2/26/2023 5:02 AM
We've got a lot of character-based headmates.
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Daen [LeviticusKillgore] 2/26/2023 5:02 AM
Almost as though they follow our interest? I mean I've got Cornelius and Alastor
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Well, I'm an NPC my host made, but I am based off of that character, so yes!
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That said, he has told me I can change my form and name whenever I like.
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Seth || M&M BOT 2/26/2023 5:03 AM
But our aliases (we often make up pseudonyms as to not identify as a character in spaces we don't feel comfortable doing so) feel all fairly normal.
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Daen [LeviticusKillgore]
And mine are all men. With some powerful names
You could make an effective fighting force of tulpas
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Use their character backgrounds, let them take control. Become an ultimate fighting machine worthy of Rome
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Daen [LeviticusKillgore] 2/26/2023 5:04 AM
Like a war inside my own head?
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Daen [LeviticusKillgore]
Like a war inside my own head?
Yeah
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Daen [LeviticusKillgore] 2/26/2023 5:04 AM
That wouldn't be. Very entertaining.
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At least the physical consequences wouldn't be fun.
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Daen [LeviticusKillgore] 2/26/2023 5:06 AM
Where did everyone go?
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Seth || M&M BOT 2/26/2023 5:07 AM
Sorry, I'm multitasking.
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I'd like to have some friendly competition with my headmates one day.
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I know a lot of them used to enjoy fighting, in a competitive manner rather than a confrontational one.
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Daen [LeviticusKillgore] 2/26/2023 5:07 AM
Sorry I may sound a bit confused
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I only recently hear to tulpas
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So I joined a couple servers pretty recently
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I genuinely want to try this as some sort of test, but I do not want it to become permanent. Is that possible? I read earlier that your tulpa will disappear if you halt all interaction with them
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Daen [LeviticusKillgore] 2/26/2023 5:08 AM
But I don't know what to make it of myself
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Talking to the community is what I'm looking for
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I'll. I'll try my bets to fit in
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Seth || M&M BOT 2/26/2023 5:08 AM
I genuinely want to try this as some sort of test, but I do not want it to become permanent. Is that possible? I read earlier that your tulpa will disappear if you halt all interaction with them
@. - jump That's true, but I personally see ethical issues with dissipating tulpas.
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Seth || M&M
I genuinely want to try this as some sort of test, but I do not want it to become permanent. Is that possible? I read earlier that your tulpa will disappear if you halt all interaction with them
@. - jump That's true, but I personally see ethical issues with dissipating tulpas.
Yeah I see where you are coming from
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Seth || M&M BOT 2/26/2023 5:09 AM
Please do more research, as much as it takes before you can make a confident yes-or-no decision.
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Seth || M&M
Please do more research, as much as it takes before you can make a confident yes-or-no decision.
I personally wouldn't have an issue with it. Yes I really am interested in this
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Seth || M&M BOT 2/26/2023 5:09 AM
There's a buttload of resources out there, and it's a huge rabbit hole
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It's a lot more interesting than lucid dreaming, I'll say
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Seth || M&M BOT 2/26/2023 5:09 AM
Really? I'm very interested in lucid dreaming.
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I'm fairly interested in the paranormal, which is why this caught my eye
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Seth || M&M
There's a buttload of resources out there, and it's a huge rabbit hole
Daen [LeviticusKillgore] 2/26/2023 5:09 AM
Any pointers to good sources I can look into?
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Seth || M&M BOT 2/26/2023 5:09 AM
Being a system is so normal for me, but lucid dreaming feels almost like magoc.
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Seth || M&M
Really? I'm very interested in lucid dreaming.
Ah, by the looks of it, lucid dreaming is chump change compared to tulpamancy
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Daen [LeviticusKillgore] 2/26/2023 5:10 AM
Depends. Lucidity is a pretty interesting concept.
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Seth || M&M BOT 2/26/2023 5:10 AM
Any pointers to good sources I can look into?
@Daen [LeviticusKillgore] - jump Tulpa.info forums, Redditulpas Discord server, R/Tulpas
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